The love part, however, is that they concede the complexity of fatness and they understand there are real consequences to stigma. The questions I and others have raised regarding this body of evidence are legitimate questions of the data and the conclusions drawn from the data. Of course, web forums are the worst place for this in many ways because it is possible to respond before thinking but it is permanent (or semi-permanent) by the time it is done. Why are so many people drawn to conspiracy theories in times of crisis? But you also found that your body started to fight you. Archaeology, economics and market research are other areas where cause and effect is important, so should provide some excellent examples of how to establish cause and effect. Women categorized as obese or severely obese had a dramatically higher risk of death. Studies that look at an effect and seek the cause; ask many questions and then compare the answers through correlational analysis Tests Procedures used to measure attributes of individuals at a particular time and place; results can be used for correlational analysis or for generating ideas for other research The research was undertaken by Asnawi Abdullah, Rory Wolfe, Johannes Stoelwinder, Christopher Stevenson, Helen Walls and Anna Peeters from Monash University and Maximilian de Courten from the University of Copenhagen". It is a civil rights question. In experiments that use historical data, as with the drinking/depression example, this can be a little more complex. ScienceDaily (Feb. 14, 2011) — Obesity is a killer in its own right, irrespective of other biological or social risk factors traditionally associated with coronary heart disease, suggests research published online in Heart., And for those who are challenging this post or what I believe to be the big message here which is challenging our assumptions about obesity, please read about HAES first. This is the process of science. In fact, much of what we think we know comes from epidemiological studies that says X population eats lots of Y therefore it must cause and/or prevent Z. Have written posts about it on my blog and really believe until we can start to address people as wholes, and people and diseases as complex issues, we miss the point. When we see an association between obesity and poor health we might conclude that it is the obesity causing the poor health, but it could also be many of the very same biological mechanisms that produce the heart disease or the diabetes that also produce the obesity. It means that an informed reader of the research needs to know the biases in order to judge the usefulness of the information. And, you are so cynical, so uncaring, so reckless, so self-centered and selfish that you try to convince other obese people that the science does not show that obesity is unhealthy? I long for a day when "diet" means the composition of what we eat and not "way to lose weight." People, women, especially, have bought into the control my body, control my world mentality for a long time now. All you doi is take all the evidence of the harmful effects of obesity and find fault with them. If the diet advocates are right, then HAES will lead to long-term weight loss and that will lead to good health. That I have these views does not mean I'm "afraid" of anything. "This research provides added support for all the current policy trying to prevent obesity in general. Understanding causation is only a part of that complexity, but I hope I added something significant to the issues you raised. "We need a better understanding of the causes and consequences of obesity in older individuals -- especially when obesity is associated with sarcopenia.". You have a psychological stake in this. It certainly seems plausible that as inflation increases, more employers find that in order to meet costs they have to lay off employees. This seems to be an extremely obvious statement, but that is not always the case. Targeting obesity itself often stigmatizes a group of people which honestly does nothing to help the cause. I'm not saying that anybody is necessarily right, I don't know that for sure, but it is good to make the argument. In other words, there are complexities in this research and methodology as well as other factors such as improvements in health care and preventative care have had an impact, without significant changes in weight. 2003;289(2):187-93. I am not sure this is an analysis of whether obesity is healthy, unhealthy or neutral, but instead a discussion about how we come to those conclusions. Instead, the underlying assumption is that it is "obvious" that therefore people need to control their weight. I have stated that I know of these correlations repeatedly but some how because I do not draw the same conclusions from these correlations that you do, I am constructed as denying the data or not reading it or, as you said, "take all the evidence of the harmful effects of obesity and find fault with them.". "Being Overweight Just As Risky To Health As Being A Smoker Her analogy to smoking is not saying it's not risky - on the contrary. It is taking population data and applying it to individual members of the population. And, don't confuse the differnce between proof that losing weight helps with proof that getting obese in the first place is unhealthy. I am questioning them with a skeptical eye and reading them closely to see what they have to tell me. "Obesity continues to result in increased deaths" is a causation statement. Cause and effect is one of the most commonly misunderstood concepts in science and is often misused by lawyers, the media, politicians and even scientists themselves, in an attempt to add legitimacy to research. *People with higher BMIs have more cytokines from the stress of dealing with a social stigma on a daily basis and are therefore at higher risk for conditions that lead to early death. For example, interviewing a sample of the depressed heavy drinkers will establish whether they felt that they were depressed before they started drinking or if the depression came later. Thus, these factors are confounded with studies of weight making comments about activity levels and studies of activity levels making comments about weight control. Is this just a coincidence? Nutrition and pregnancy Here are 3 simple but effective methods: 5W1H, 6M and 8P method. I wish them all well as I do you. is a report that outlines some of these issues. ". But part of the reason diwting doesn't work is obese people going around lying to other obese people that obesity is quite OK, it doesn't even effect your health. 2. Missing research is just as important in understanding phenomena as critiquing existing research. You seriously are proposing that 65% of the population is just so undisciplined and uninformed that they haven't tried to keep weight off? It is how it was designed. How Well Can Dog Owners Predict Their Dog's Behavior? ScienceDaily (Mar. I know people who advocate HAES who lost weight when they began to emphasize health not weight in their own habits. Of course my cause has to happen before the effect. At that point, the information becomes a sacred cow instead of a proposition to be debated and examined. This is where another event actually caused the effect noticed, rather than your treatment or manipulation. Since you have chosen to post this bibliography without commentary (other than "science says" which is a fascinating rhetorical ploy that I will address another time), I have several questions for you regarding this research: 1. Cause and effect demonstrated by measuring the impact of the Independent Variable on the Dependent Variable. It is the inflammation response that effects insulin resistance, through the expression of the cytokines interleukin 1β and interleukin 16. Toward a 'Knowledge of Causes...and All Things Possible', Sizeism Is Harming Too Many of Us: Fat Shaming Must Stop, We Must Rely on Good Science in Porn Debate. 1. Fat people are not less than human. A number of issues have been raised regarding existing obesity research. Exactly where are all these costs coming from? Journal of the American Medical Association. " Prediction is not cause and effect. The purpose in research for making strong cases for causation is obviously to create effective solutions to real problems. The "alarming rate" is questionable. 2, 2009) — Obese adolescents have the same risk of premature death in adulthood as people who smoke more than 10 cigarettes a day,...". It secretes cytokines that induce insulin resistance, and if that adipose tissue is reduced its secretion of cytokines, and you get less insulin resistance and less of the chronic inflammation and metabolic dysregulation. The events are described in some deta… Body mass index Many of the people who lose weight have complications from either the attempt to lose weight or from the weight loss itself, so asserting that it improves health is a mixed result, not a strong one. Money sometimes tips the scale against truth. 2. Reliability and validity are extremely difficult to achieve in human studies. In my case, that was certainly true: I got obese because I ate whatever I wanted without regard for the health, esteem and appearance consequences. I am so tired of reading about how the newest study proves X. So you have a personal stake, Anon... A good scientist always challenges his assumptions. ScienceDaily (Mar. These types of threats arise from issues within the participant groups or the researchers themselves. A "my study is better than your study" exchange soon boils down into arguments over evidence. Also, it is very hard if not impossible to isolate variables in human studies. An experiment tests the effect that an independent variable has upon a dependent variable but a correlation looks for a relationship between two variables. It has been well-established that people who are obese face increased risks of death from heart disease, stroke, and certain cancers. I am advocating that the truth should be pursued and it is not being pursued in this realm. 6. causation: The act by which an effect is produced; in psychological research, the assumption that one variable leads to another. What if the case can be made that there is a genetic component? I wonder how many other readers will. In fact, there is a whole host of reasons why a mature student performs better: they have more life experience and confidence, and many feel that it is their last chance to succeed; my graduation year included a 75-year-old man, and nobody studied harder! Percentages work better than totals. It emphasizes a healthy diet and exercise, the very behaviors that are supposed to result in weight loss. That doesn't mean they have a "right" to make believe it's not happening, or to distort truth to jsutify their choices. I'm a happy person and quite comfortable in my own skin. Though talking about this break from the nutritional concepts of HAES, will get you thoroughly ignored on a certain fat acceptance forum - not so accepting! Employer-sponsored weight loss and maintenance programs should be considered as part of a well-rounded workplace safety plan. And that is the third contention. And please, don't tell me how much you care. Really? Oh, and since you assert that "...people who pay no taxes and pay no insurance premiums do not pay more. It will be interesting to see if similar correlations exist with other diseases associated with obesity, such as cancer and heart disease.". and, where is your science? Anonymous - I am ashamed of myself for thinking previously that you were just an industry troll who is probably being paid to follow blogs and wipe out HAES wherever you find it. Experiments on causal relationships investigate the effect of one or more variables on one or more outcome variables. This was designed to make me laugh. Additional precision might be gained from larger cohort studies, but bias because of nonrepresentative samples and the use of self-reported weight and height could lead to less accurate estimates.". Check out our quiz-page with tests about: Martyn Shuttleworth (Sep 20, 2009). Different factors are creating obesity and in this country not far away it will be 25 % of populatin taht will be obese without counting the overweight people in that. The increased risk of death for a BMI of 25 or greater was also seen in all age groups, although it was more prominent for those who were overweight or obese before age 50. It is common to find obese people -- even morbidly obese people -- who are healthier than their condition would normally allow. However, the biggest difference when identifying risk factors is to understand that while obesity does a appear to be a risk factor in many disease processes, it is one factor, and how much of a factor may depend on lots of things like genetics, environment and other unknown variables. Certainly much of the morbidity and mortality attributed to obesity itself, is much more likely to come from poor diet. (Here is a reference that kind of, sort of explains how it is calculated now:, Here's the thing. thanks Shaun. Weight is complex. But in studies where such factors as activity level, consumption of certain kinds of food, social factors such as socioeconomic levels and stress levels have been accounted for, weight becomes an almost non-existent factor. the study didn't find comorbidities or correlations with death. In an article published in the February 2010 issue of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, researchers from Columbia University and The City College of New York calculate that the Quality-Adjusted Life Years (QALYs) lost due to obesity is now equal to, if not greater than, those lost due to smoking -- both modifiable risk factors....". Download electronic versions: I can't put my finger on the reference but I know I read somewhere that in the 1990s either the CDC or the NIH just decided that the top 15 percentile of kids in a given age group were "overweight," with a small top percentile being defined as obese. I think (but might be wrong) that what you've experience on HAES boards is that many of the people there do not want to have any kind of diet talk because of past abuse and personal histories. This type of classic 'chicken and egg' argument makes establishing causality one of the most difficult aspects of scientific research. But you can find deficiencies in almost any study if you try hard enough. "Obesity is associated with a modestly increased relative risk of mortality, often in the range of 1 to 2. Then it is assumed that if the health of the lower weight persons is better than the higher weight persons (or some other combination of lower, middle and higher weights), the loss (or gain) of weight will bring all people into the same state of health. Critically assessing research is an important step in understanding our world and our bodies. This influenced the results and compromised the validity of the experiment. The principles put out by ASDAH state: "Promoting eating in a manner which balances individual nutritional needs, hunger, satiety, appetite, and pleasure.". Confounding Data Interpretation: Many of the comorbidities correlated with weight can be explained by other factors and/or other factors have not been considered or ruled out in the studies. 3. In the US, the lowest socioeconomic levels have health care access in the form of Medicaid and yet they continue to have more health risks than the general population. They have been and always will be a part of the human race unless we move to a Logan's Run society where the weak, sick and unacceptable are killed and everyone is terminated at a youthful 30 years of age. I forgot to mention I became a big advocate for HAES after reading about their general philosophy. They really do it. If you are so worried about medical costs, then take a look at for-profit medicine and at the extreme overhead administrative costs of this inefficient system. Professor Peter Shepherd, Chair of the Editorial Board of the Biochemical Journal, said: "This is a very interesting finding and provides important clues as to why some obese people go on to become diabetic while others do not. Many of these claims deviate from the scientific process and pay little heed to cause and effect, diluting the claims of genuine researchers in the field. I suggest you go back and re-read Dr. Thomas's very excellent explanations of research methodology and analysis. A lot of studies assume that all fat people do not exercise and all thin people do exercise. I am not obsessed. Recognizing that health and well-being are multi-dimensional and that they include physical, social, spiritual, occupational, emotional, and intellectual aspects. But this is my forum for now. Key Terms. I have read a bunch of the literature and my position is a little of both sides. Reality is objective, “out there”, and independent of the researcher. This means that we control and monitor other variables affecting the dependent variable (e.g. 20, 2009) — A new analysis of almost one million people from around the world has shown that obesity can trim years off life expectancy. We just all sit around waiting for an excuse to do the worst things we can to our bodies? No one is saying obesity isn't (at least in some individuals) related to health problems...but there is a huge difference between saying that obesity increases the chance of developing diabetes in individuals who are already genetically predisposed and saying that obesity causes diabetes. Which one of these studies took into account the stigmatization of fat persons, their dieting histories, their socioeconomic levels and other factors that might contribute and/or explain these correlations? The investigators observed similar patterns of risk even after accounting for differences in alcohol consumption, physical activity, and education level. People like simple answers. BMI, the most commonly used measure for body fat, is calculated by dividing a person's weight in kilograms by the square of his/her height in meters (kg/m2). But the money, time and personal investment in weight loss has led to distortions. No, really. I love medical sociology and I love thinking critically about how people speak about the world. It is not obvious, and more importantly, it should not be assumed in science to be obvious. As a society, we can stand by the position that their weight doesn't matter and that higher weight is merely correlated with (not causative of) diabetes or else we can say that a fairly tight correlation is sufficient to indicate possible/probably cause and explore the matter further. The only research method that can show cause & effect (demonstrate a causal relationship). This is not supported by evidence. Kids do not grow evenly over time and therefore what looks like a big weight gain might look like a growth spurt if you wait just a little. He describes a case history as an event or series of events set in an organisational framework with or without a related environment. But, from a societal perspective, it's also a choice that impacts health care costs for everyone else. You must begin early and work efficiently at selecting a topic, gathering data, preparing an outline, writing a rough draft and preparing a … The main method for cause-effect research is experimentation. I said that emphasizing weight over health is a form of hatred and the only reason I can figure out why HAES would be threatening is if the goal is about bigotry not health. If I am right, then HAES will lead to good health no matter what someone's size is. Many statistics of 'obesity related morbidity and mortality' include disease that have not been proven to be caused by obesity - especially as plenty of thin people get them too - heart disease and diabetes, for instance. Since there is no effort to account for that possibility, the registry remains flawed. I'd like to raise three basic points that I think almost all critiques agree upon regarding the comorbidities and costs of obesity: Ecological Fallacy: Many of the studies that have been done are population studies about adults at different weights and not following adults who gain or lose weight. I have lost little weight and was told that my health would not improve until I lost substantial weight. I am advocating that in a culture that limits the life chances of fat people and treats them as less than human, approaches to health that emphasize weight loss are doomed to failure. Social Issues However, this research shows for the first time that being obese for longer increases your risk of mortality, no matter how heavy you actually are," Monash University researcher, Dr Anna Peeters said. The Experimental MethodConditions to Establish Cause and Effect1. Four, okay, now maybe we need to think about this. Fortunately, the solution to this problem is easy: if the researcher uses a two group pretest-posttest design with a control group, the control group will be equally influenced by the historical event, so the researcher can still establish a good baseline. I am well-researched and open to changes in the ways in which I think about this. Thus, results are affected by the precision and bias in relative risk estimates. This is panic rhetoric, not science. A laboratory experiment is an experiment conducted under highly controlled conditions (not necessarily a laboratory), where accurate measurements are possible. See Also: No problem, save it as a course and come back to it later. Experimental Methods: A research method used to uncover cause-and-effect relationships between variables. My personal stance is that what people eat should be a matter of personal choice. For a BMI calculator, go to Furthermore, the research showed for every additional two years lived with obesity, the risk of mortality increased by between six and seven per cent. 6 Ways to Increase Happiness at Work and at Home. Weight gain seems to have stabilized in the United States in the past 10 years, so predicting that 25% of the population will be "obese" is not really founded: One study is interesting, two studies, nice. There are a few psychology papers which you might come across in your studies. In an educational setting, with two groups of children, one treated and one not, there are a number of potential issues. ", "Obesity Is Heart Disease Killer in Its Own Right, Irrespective of Other Risk Factors Which one of these studies demonstrates that taking a fat person and making them smaller eliminates their risk? For example, there are some studies that suggest that the stigma of fatness and not the fat might be the reason behind these differences. 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